2008 Pontiac G8
2008 Pontiac G8 Expert Review:Autoblog
Here's a question: what builds excitement? For Pontiac, the General's erstwhile "excitement" division, the answer hails from Oz. No, it's not another attempt to rebadge a Holden Monaro with the lofty GTO moniker, it's to rebadge a Commodore with some G-flava.
The Pontiac G8 has potential, both from an enthusiast perspective and as a means to remake a brand that's lost its sheen in the last few product cycles. Overall, the G8's a looker. With a purposeful stance, flared wheel arches and a nose that makes puttering Prii piss their proverbial pants, the Pontiac G8 arrives with equal parts menace and promise. But beyond outward appearances, what does this new sports sedan have to offer in a segment that's been left largely untapped (save the Dodge Charger)? That's what we're in sunny San Diego to find out.
Real drivers rejoice! We've got what we want... almost. Two engine choices, either a 3.6-liter V6 or a 6.0-liter V8 mounted up front, send power to the rear-wheels. Good and good. Manual? Nope. In a move that will surely be rectified by this time next year, Pontiac has decided that swapping your own cogs is not in a potential G8 buyer's interest. While that's disappointing enough, the two auto 'box offerings are just as dispiriting. If you opt for the 256-hp V6, you're saddled with a five-speed auto with manu-matic. Similarly with the V8, a six-speed slush box shovels 361 hp and 385 lb.-ft. of torque to the back while allowing you to choose your own ratios by throwing the gear selector to the right and pushing up or down for that not-quite-manual experience. Both are fine gearboxes, but for a vehicle that aims to put driver enjoyment first and foremost, it's an option that's sorely lacking from the spec sheet. However, we've been assured that a manual is coming, but launching the G8 without one seems to be the biggest mistake so far.
Getting back to the engines, the base G8 comes equipped with the same 3.6-liter V6 that's found on the entry-level Cadillac CTS. That means sequential fuel injection is used in favor of the direct-injection available on the upper-echelon Caddy. It's a bit of a disappointment that Pontiac opted out of what's arguably one of the better sixes on the market, but again, it's likely to make its way under hood in the future.
That said, the V6 is a good enough engine providing sufficient motivation to match the base G8's 3,885-pound curb weight. The key word in that last sentence, if you didn't pick up on it, was "sufficient." While the six-equipped model can get out of its own way when shoved and the 6,900-rpm redline is fun to cane through the corners, it remains merely adequate. However, a GT model packing 5,967cc of V8 goodness was just a few short words away. Time for a car swap.
Pontiac is stressing that those buyers who've decided a stock V6 will suit their needs won't be losing much in terms of exterior and interior appointments. Outside, the spoiler, fog lamps, color-keyed mirrors and in-your-face front all make the transition over from the GT. The only exterior difference is the quad exhaust pipes on the GT versus the standard dual exhausts on the base model. An optional chrome surround on the door handles is available on both models, but we'd skip it when ticking boxes. On the inside, it's a similar story, but optioning the G8 up with the premium package includes dual-zone climate control, heated seats and leather thrones.
The interior materials are typical nuevo-GM; incredibly improved over the last two decade's offerings, but still lacking in a few areas. The dash gets a swath of soft-touch plastic stretching from A-pillar to A-pillar, bisected by some hard plastic that waterfalls down into the center console. Mounted at the top of that stack is an LED read-out of the oil temp and battery charge. That's the only bit of information you can get from the display, which left us a bit confused since it takes up so much real estate on the dash. Below that is a sizable screen dispalying everything from climate information to where your stereo is set. Overall, it's one of the nicest user interfaces we've seen recently; props to GM's computer geeks. The knobs below control volume and mode, while underneath those are all the switchgear necessary to keep occupants in comfortable climes. Most of the controls feel good to the touch, with the silver knobs getting rubber inlays that keep sensitive digits away from the iffy plastic in between. The seats proved their GT-cred throughout our cruise, with just enough bolster to keep things mildly snug. But if we had a choice, we'd opt for the cloth covered chairs whose grippy material and appearance easily beat out their dead-cow competition – too bad leather is standard with the premium pack.
After suitably molesting every interior bit we could find, we finally got underway. Every G8 comes equipped with the FE2 suspension package, which boasts slightly stiffer springs and sporting dampers. Coupled with either the 18x8-inch or 19x8-inch aluminum rollers (the latter fitted on sport pack-equipped models), the ride is a subtle balance of rigid and relaxed. The steering's variable-ratio rack-and-pinion setup never felt twitchy and the summer tires provided adequate feedback through the wheel. While it's not the most direct tiller we've sampled, we never caught ourselves asking for more, or less.
Pontiac's driving route spoke directly to the brand's intentions for the G8. We'd estimate that 80-percent of the drive was on spaghetti-inspired roads that wound their way through the hills east of San Diego. What minimal time we spent in town or on the freeway was brief and the G8 handled it with ease, including a quick stop to meet the region's incredibly affable boarder patrol officers.
The mountainous roads proved that the G8 is equal parts corner carver and four-door GT. It's substantial heft is obvious at first, but as the road turned twisty the G8 showed that it has the skills to back up its demeanor. Turn in is crisp, with the tires tracking predictably through the bends. Braking force is substantial, although initial bite on the V8 model equipped with slightly larger discs (12.64- versus 11.73-inches up front and 12.76- versus 11.89-inches in the rear) caused a momentary lurch forward followed by progressive pedal pressure on down. And then there's the acceleration.
While the V6 model's minimal motivation was only matched by its sedate sound, the V8 is a glorious combination of aural assault and potent propulsion. With 6.0-liters of All American Australian goodness underfoot, a quick stab of the long pedal drops the six-speed automatic down a few cogs and rockets the G8 into extra-legal speeds at a moment's notice. It's quick, entertaining and only sucks about two miles-per-gallon more fuel compared to the V6 version thanks to cylinder deactivation. If you're going to go for a G8, the GT is arguably the best version to get – until a GXP version is released.
The thought of an amped-up G8 is incredibly appealing and the mind reels with possible powertrains and suspension setups. One of our hosts for the day made it clear that a GXP is a natural consideration saying, "If we weren't considering [a GXP model], we should be fired." Same with a coupe. Agreed on both fronts and may we suggest Pontiac check out Holden's just-unveiled Coupe 60? We'll let you two talk.
While we understand that the release of a serious high-performance model should come later in a product's life-cycle, and as much as we enjoyed our time behind the wheel of the G8, there's always the sneaking suspicion that Pontiac left something on the table with the quick (by GM standards) release of the G8. The lack of a manual option, a direct-injection engine and a handful of other minor gripes left us wanting a little bit more from the experience. The G8 is rife with potential and may finally bring Pontiac back from the brink, but until the higher-ups decide that we're worthy of those extra goodies – from interior materials to powertrain options – the G8 remains a viable choice for buyers looking for rear-driven, V8 power on a moderate budget. With all the option boxes marked, you'd be hard-pressed to crack the $32,000 ceiling; not a bad value for a vehicle that offers drivers most of what they want and little else.
New Car Test Drive
Pontiac aces its new big sedan.
We have Australia to thank for the all-new 2008 Pontiac G8. It was designed and is built there by Holden, a division of General Motors, and is sold as the Commodore SS. They've had the time to perfect it.
The G8 is a rear-wheel-drive sedan, Pontiac's first full-size car since the Bonneville was discontinued in 2005. It becomes the Pontiac flagship, being bigger than the mid-size front-wheel-drive G6, and it takes that spot at the top of the line with pride, being a very good car, with no weaknesses. At least not with the V8-engined GT, which Pontiac accurately bills as the most powerful car on the market for under $30,000. But it's not just powerful; there's a wonderful six-speed manual automatic transmission, the ride is comfortable without being soft, and the handling is taut. It all works.
And it looks good: smooth and muscular, with an unmistakably Pontiac nose. The interior is comfortable and tidy, with good instrumentation and a reasonably roomy rear seat. The standard cloth seats are excellent, with good bolstering and lumbar support. Leather is optional. The GT features an 11-speaker Blaupunkt sound system.
Even with 361 horsepower, the G8 GT gets 15 city and 24 highway miles per gallon, on regular fuel. Premium is recommended but not required. When Pontiac measures the horsepower on the dynamometer, guaranteed, they use premium fuel.
It comes with a comprehensive list of safety features, including electronic stability control, curtain airbags, and Onstar.
The V6 G8 uses the same engine that's in the Cadillac CTS. It doesn't rate the same praise as the GT because it doesn't have the V8's power, six-speed transmission or taut suspension or steering. It costs $2400 less, and its highway mileage is only one more mile per gallon, at 17 city and 25 highway.
The GT is the hot setup. The 6.0-liter, 361-horsepower V8 engine, using a six-speed manual automatic transmission, totally changes the car. Starting with the hood scoops, passing through the seat of your pants with the tuned suspension, and ending at the four polished stainless exhaust tips. Inside, it adds dual-zone air conditioning, a leather wrap steering wheel with controls, color LCD display, and six-disc CD with Blaupunkt 11-speaker sound system.
The 2008 Pontiac G8 comes in two models, the G8 ($26,910) with a V6 engine, and the G8 GT ($29,310) with a V8.
The V6 engine in the G8 makes 256 horsepower and uses a five-speed automatic with driver shift control. Standard equipment includes air conditioning, cruise control, four-way power front seats, tilt/telescopic steering wheel, lighted visor mirrors, compass in rearview mirror, power windows and locks, AM/FM/CD seven-speaker sound system with auxilary input jack, 18-inch aluminum wheels, fog lights, and tinted glass.
Options include a Comfort and Sound Package ($795), an upgrade to dual-zone A/C and 6CD with MP3 and premium speakers.
The GT adds dual-zone air conditioning, a leather wrapped steering wheel with controls, color LCD, and 6CD with Blaupunkt 11-speaker sound system. That's in addition to the 6.0-liter V8, six-speed transmission, tuned suspension, and special trim. The Premium Package ($1250) includes leather upholstery and heated, six-way power front seats.
Safety equipment includes anti-lock brakes, stability control, traction control, remote vehicle start, driver info center with tire pressure monitor, battery run-down protection; front, side and curtain airbags, and one year of Onstar Safe and Sound, which does not include navigation guidance.
The shape of the new Pontiac G8 is exactly what it should be. Muscular but smooth, and not overkill. It's a body that will appeal to both sexes and pretty much all ages: men and women, boys and girls. Unmistakably a Pontiac, especially from the front, with the signature split grille and hood scoops, no big bulges, just tidy slits. The grille looks good, with chrome trapezoids around black crate. There's a wide split air intake, also in black, at the bottom of the front fascia; with the nicely angled headlamps and front fender flares, everything is perfectly balanced and just aggressive enough.
In the fenders behind the front wheels, there's another opening. On the left side is an air intake, while the right side is merely there to match the left.
The roofline is sweeping enough to disguise the fact that there are four doors, and the hips lift but aren't as high as they might be, and the spoiler is tidy. The G8 GT uses clear taillight lenses, and has four polished exhaust tips, the G8 red with two.
One wonders why GM doesn't try harder to design better looking wheels. The G8's twin five-spoke 18-inchers (painted aluminum) look better than the G8 GT's five-spokes (brushed aluminum), and the optional 19-inch wheels aren't that much better. A killer set of wheels will cause the G8 to turn heads, which might not happen without help.
There isn't a lot of difference between the G8 interior and the standard cloth interior in the G8 GT, which adds a leather-wrapped four-spoke steering wheel with optional sound, cruise, and Driver Information Center controls. There's a bit less of the brushed aluminum-look trim in the G8, not that there's too much in the G8 GT.
The seats are comfortable, adjustable four ways in the G8 and six ways in the G8 GT. Our test model had the optional leather seats, and they were good-looking in black. The seats hold you tightly enough for sporty driving, although if you start playing Juan Pablo Montoya (this car can handle it, even if you can't), you'll feel a need for more bolstering. But if there were more, the car's appeal would narrow.
The instrumentation is good, although not without flaws. There's a digital battery and oil pressure gauge in the center of the dash that's unattractive and not particularly useful, and the digital transmission gear indicator is too small to read. The speedometer and tachometer are big enough, easy to read, and appropriate to the performance character of the G8.
The power window buttons are located between the seats, and we like them there. The emergency brake handle has been designed not to take up space, and it can be a grab handle, and that works too. The grab handles over the doors fit the hand and provide good leverage.
There's decent legroom in the rear seat, because this is a real sedan. The driveshaft tunnel doesn't intrude too much. There are heating and A/C vents back there, in the rear doors, where there are also speakers and good pockets, and front seatbacks have nets. The access to the trunk is wide.
We drove one of our favorite roads, from San Diego to Borrego Springs, over winding roads with good visibility into the desert in full springtime bloom. We came back without a single dissatisfaction with the performance of the G8 GT in those qualities that matter most: engine, transmission, suspension, brakes.
The 6.0-liter overhead valve engine (like the engine in the Corvette) makes 361 horsepower and 385 pound-feet of torque, which peaks at a fairly high 4400 rpm, although the engine doesn't feel peaky. Overall, the GT feels trim. In fact, from the driver's seat, it feels smaller than it is. It has more power than any Pontiac in history (take that, you Firebird Trans-Am Ram Air big honkin' hood scoop muscle cars), but it's totally tame until you want to use that power. Then it will accelerate from 0 to 60 in 5.1 seconds and knock off the quarter-mile in 13.8. And with all that torque, the engine just lopes through places and situations that cause other sedans to take a harder swing.
But maybe the best thing about the all-new G8 is the six-speed transmission in the GT. Pontiac has joined the slim ranks of the savvy, by making a tight-shifting automatic transmission with manual control that's absolutely faithful to the driver's commands. It makes sport driving of the GT such a pleasure.
There are three modes to the Driver Shift Control transmission: Cruise, Sport and Manual. Cruise is fully automatic; Sport is automatic with more aggressive shift points, and Manual is, totally, manual. In Manual, it will short shift: that is, upshift under hard throttle but below redline. Sometimes that's a useful and smooth technique, and far too many automatic manual transmissions are programmed to disallow that; the thinking (by some engineer, somewhere) is that hard throttle means full speed means full revs. No, not necessarily.
The transmission employs rev matching for smoother downshifting, and the revs are just right. There are rational limits to the manual control, however: It won't let you downshift if the lower gear would cause the engine to reach redline where there's a rev limiter. But it will allow you to reach redline on the upshifts. It won't upshift for you, in manual mode, which you control with the lever. No paddle shifters, here. Not missed.
Cruise mode is true, too: for smooth cruising. You don't feel each downshift at every red light and stop sign. It understands gliding.
Sport mode is actually useful. Some aren't, because they just make the power delivery jerky. It can be an engineering tightrope walk, to find that happy medium between cruise and manual. It's a function of the programming and the engine characteristics. But it works with the GT.
However, Sport mode on the G8 with the V6 doesn't do much but make the shifts rougher. That's because the V6 and five-speed transmission lack the range of the V8 and six-speed. We got some good miles in the base G8, and through the twisties, in Sport mode, it kept kicking down like crazy. But it was smooth in Cruise, and true (and fun) in Manual.
The V6 is basically the same engine as in the Cadillac CTS, a 3.6-liter making 256 horsepower and 248 pound-feet of torque at a low 2100 rpm. The acceleration is good, but the exhaust note is raspy and not very pleasing, when you're hard on the throttle. On the freeway at steady light throttle, the engine is quiet.
Also, the suspension in the G8 doesn't have the same taut feel as in the GT. The variable-ratio, rack-and-pinion steering rates are different; also, the G8 brake rotors are smaller. The G8 is for those who love the style but don't really want the performance. It's less aggressive in every respect. It only gets one more highway mpg, but at least it runs on regular fuel, unlike the V8 which needs premium.
The 6.0-liter V8 engine (built in Mexico) uses active fuel management, which edges it up to its EPA rating of a combi.
The all-new Pontiac G8 rear-wheel-drive sedan, designed and built in Australia, succeeds in every respect. With the 361-hp V8 engine in the GT model, it's the most powerful car you can buy for under $30,000. It still gets 20 mpg on regular fuel. The ride is comfortable at all times, and firm when you need it to be. The handling is precise and up to the task of hard cornering. Its styling is muscular and smooth, and it's roomy inside. General Motors needed a winner, and Pontiac has delivered it for them.
Sam Moses filed this report to NewCarTestDrive.com after his test drive of the G8 models in Southern California.
Pontiac G8 ($26,910); G8 GT ($29,310).
Options As Tested
Premium Package ($1250) including leather, 6-way heated front seats.
Pontiac G8 GT ($29,310).
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