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Your Car Shopping Game Plan

Posted: Oct, 22 2009
1. Greet the car salesman warmly.

Smile and shake his hand. Be friendly. You want him to like you so that he'll work harder for you.

2. Get his attention by telling him what he wants to hear.

Tell him: "I'll be buying a car very soon." If after this introduction, you find the salesman rude or unwilling to help you, ask to speak to his Sales Manager. Tell the manager that you'd like a more helpful salesman.

3. Tell the car salesman exactly what you want to see.

Be specific as possible. For example: "I'd like to see what you have in a compact car with automatic transmission and a window sticker price of around $18,000." If you're not sure what you want or you're confused by all the choices, then tell him those things that you know are important to you, such as: "I need a four-door car with lots of cargo space and a window sticker price of around $18,000."

Under the guise of trying to help you, the salesman is going to ask you lots of questions. Do not discuss your monthly payments with him.

Then turn the tables on him. Ask him questions about the cars, the dealership and his business. Play dumb and try to learn as much as you can. Get him to like you by pumping his ego: compliment him on what a good job he's doing.

4. Check out the vehicles that he shows you.

When he shows you a car that you like - and that fits your needs and budget - look it over. Do you like the styling of the car? Can you see yourself driving it?

5. If it is a new vehicle, look at the factory window sticker.

The factory window sticker tells you all about the car. Read it carefully because it contains a lot of important information.

The window sticker will give you the predicted gas mileage for both highway and city driving. It will also list all of the equipment that comes standard with the vehicle and then, in a separate column, the options that have been built into the car at the factory with the price of each listed. Look for an "equipment package," a group of discounted options.

At the bottom of the sticker will be the asking price for the vehicle called the "M.S.R.P." which stands for "Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price". Be sure that this price fits your budget.

Some dealerships add a second window sticker called a "Dealer Addendum" in an effort to widen their profit margin. If you see one of these stickers, ignore it for now.

6. Ask about other versions of the same car.

Most vehicles come in several different equipment levels usually designated by a letter code such as DX, SE or XL. You might be able to get the same car with the equipment you want on a less expensive version.

7. If you like the car, sit inside.

Is the interior comfortable? How does the interior "feel"?

8. Ask the salesman if you can test drive the car.

He'll be happy to take you for a test drive.

Notice what's happening here: you're allowing the car salesman to breeze right through the steps of his game plan. He wants you to test drive that car. He thinks he's doing great and that he's in total control. What he doesn't know is that you know exactly what you are doing. In fact, you are in complete control here.

9. Drive the vehicle as you normally would.

Don't "baby" the car. If you normally accelerate hard, then drive it that way. If you normally brake hard or corner fast, then do so. Try to drive on the types of roads you normally drive. Be sure to turn the air conditioning on and off to see how it affects the performance of the engine. And don't forget to ask lots of questions.

10. After the drive, ask the salesman for a brochure.

He'll probably ask you something like: "Is there anything we can do to earn your business today?" or "If I could sell you this $18,000 car for only $12,000, would you buy it today?"

You must be firm and clear. Tell him: "I really appreciate all of your help but, as I told you at the beginning, I'll be buying soon but not today. I simply want a brochure and some information. If I decide to buy this particular car, then I will certainly come back to see you."

If the car salesman is a good guy, he'll get you the brochure. If not, he may disappear and then return with the "Sales Manager" who may or may not be the real Sales Manager. In any case, this new guy may try to "reason" with you, persuade you, perhaps even pressure you to buy today. Again, you must be firm. Repeat to him what you told the salesman.

Don't forget that they are playing a game. And you know exactly what game they are playing. So don't fall for their lines. Don't fall for their come-ons. And don't fall for their intimidation. There's nothing personal about this. It's pure business. That's how they see it. That's how you should see it, too. And don't forget that you have the final say. If they pressure you, you can always walk away.

If they won't give you the brochures you want, no worries. You can always get them direct from the manufacturer.

11. Ask the car salesman more questions.

Ask about factory rebates, the factory warranty, dealership service, local sales taxes, license fees and so on. When you're satisfied that you have the information you need, ask the salesman for his business card.

12. Thank the salesman politely -- then leave!

Whatever happens, under any circumstances, don't buy a car yet.

What should you do next? We recommend doing more research on the vehicle you drove, comparing it to others in its class and giving yourself time to think about it. As much as it feels like that one car won't be around if you pass it up, there's always another car.

Read More About Car Buying:

- Car Buyer Secrets
- Car Buyer School
- Car Buyer FAQs

Michael Royce is a consumer advocate and former car salesman. For more car-buying tips and advice, visit his Beat The Car Salesman website.

 
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scoobagirltexas Oct 24, 2009 9:59 PM
I've never had trouble buying a car. I have always researched the car I'm interested in, checked the online inventories at the area dealerships, called the dealerships to discuss the car(s) in stock, set up an appointment to test-drive and most important, gotten the name of the salesman I'm speaking with so that I can meet them in person when I go to test drive the car. I call my credit union in advance and tell them I'm planning to car shop and get an estimate of my trade-in car value and the estimated loan value of the car I'm looking at, plus any additional equipment value. II also clean my car up and its ready to trade in when I go to the dealership (if I like their offer). Granted, by the time I actually set foot on the lot, I pretty much know whether or not I'm buying a certain car that day. But that is how I shop, I don't waste time going from one lot to another. I do all that on the phone ahead of time. The past four cars I've purchased, I knew what I was looking at, I test-drove, and I told them what I'd pay. I've always gotten what I wanted for the price I quoted, and have never regretted a single vehicle purchase. Its hard to understand that people are going to dealerships without a clue and with the "they better not try to screw me" attitude. Just do some research first, people. Its not that hard and it pays off big-time. I've only left a lot one time after giving them my price, and they called me back the next day to take my offer. The other times, I've driven away with a new car the same day. It doesn't usually take more than a couple hours to do all the paperwork and drive off the lot. Anyway, I've been buying cars for 30 years so my "game plan" seems to work for me. Buying a new car has always been relatively easy and painless!
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azbigkev Oct 24, 2009 8:46 PM
This guy has no idea of what he is talking **************** like he is getting his information from a car business washout. Some dealerships force a salesman to TO a customer to another before they can walk a customer or they will get fired, this doesn't make them a bad salesman. If it is a hard TO that is nothing but pressure I do not agree with this at all, if it is a TO to make sure that you have all the information you need or have any other questions that the first person might not or could not answer, then this is a good thing. Do your research, have an idea what you want, your budget, your credit, and what the value of the vehicle you want is approximately worth. There are many good information sites, Edmunds.com, Kelly Blue Book (KBB.com), etc. for this. Be clear about what you are looking for and don't settle for something you are not comfortable with. Hold within reason to the goals you have set for yourself. If you have done thorough research and you find a car you like, fits your parameters, and you feel the people you are dealing with are fair and honest, buy the car, if not don't under any *************. Make sure the car is in good order, if it is pre-owned and is from a new car dealership make sure they have run the car through the shop, if it is from an individual or a used car lot have a mechanic inspect it, just make sure you know the mechanic, (sometimes they will try to create work for themselves by giving you a story). If the carfax or autocheck shows an accident make sure it was a minor one that the car was able to drive away from, and that it has been fixed properly. Don't throw out a car completely because of a minor mishap, although you may use this for a bargaining chip for a better price. Naturally look for any mileage discrepancy and any title issues,(salvage,restored,etc.). Playing games only results in the same coming from the other side, this is major purchase, not a game. If you feel uncomfortable with the dealership leave, don't be pressured into doing something that are not comfortable with. Salespeople are commissioned only and don't make anything if they don't sell, they are trying to make a living just like you, most will be very helpful, but if they find you are not serious, then things will change. These writers that advocate wasting peoples' time as a game are ridiculous, how would they like it if they came to work every day and logged their time for no pay, they wouldn't even consider it. Treat your vehicle purchase like it is, a major important decision, not a game.
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sessile516 Oct 24, 2009 8:27 PM
#10: Ask for a Brochure. Quote: "If the car salesman is a good guy, he'll get you the brochure. If not, he may disappear and then return with the "Sales Manager" who may or may not be the real Sales Manager." A few years ago I spent about nine months working at a dealership while between jobs in my normal line of work, so this is what I know for ********* worth: This statement kind of puts that initial salesman in a tough spot, especially if his position is a "Product Specialist" or some similar title and his job is to show you the car, go over the features and introduce you to the Sales Manager if you are interested in the car enough to talk numbers. Generally, just giving a customer a brochure and sending him on his way after a 45 minute demonstration would be unacceptable to his boss. I don't see it as a question of him being a nice guy or not. I would say that just about all of these guys have been specifically instructed to have their manager come out and talk to the customer before handing a card, brochure etc. If he simply gives the brochure to the customer and says "thanks for stopping in" and sends you on your way, he is going to return to the showroom and his boss will accuse him of not wanting to sell a car. If he lets that happen a few times he will be out of a job. So I wouldn't see it as the salesperson being a "bad guy" as much as doing something he is required to do. For point number 10 I would just say to expect a Sales Manager or some other person to come and try to talk to you, it's part of the process. Politely insist on the brochure, a card or whatever and he will comply. If he get's pushy then walk out. If the salesperson who has been showing the car to you really is a nice guy, let him cover himself. It'll add a minute or two of your time at the dealership, but if you actually do want to deal with him when you're ready to buy, letting him do his job will increase the chance that he'll be there when you return. Actually, this is a chance to meet the guy likely to "talk numbers" with you and size him up. It's expected at this point that these two guys are the ones who will work with you in the future. If you're comfortable with him, make sure you get his name as well as your original salesman. If you don't like him, then you can tell this to your demonstrator when you return. He will gladly arrange for you to meet with a sales manager that you are more comfortable with (Who the sales manager would be is generally a random process. But if you have an opportunity like this: telling the demonstrator you won't work with this assigned manager, and asking them to find someone else. They actually love the opportunity to chose who the sales manager will be - they know who is a lousy salesman, and who knows how to sell a car. While the Sales Manager will earn commission based on the profit of the transaction, demonstrators get paid a flat amount per unit sold, and profit or price doesn't matter to them. They get just as aggravated as you do when they lose a sale because of a manager playing games. They have their favorites that they like to work with, or may know a manager ********** needs to reach a sales quota who will do what is necessary to make you happy).
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jeff1524 Oct 24, 2009 8:24 PM
From a real "Car Guy" out in Los Angeles, CA. __________________________________________________ SO...you took FEDZILLA up on its offer of $4500. dollars to trade in your old "Clunker" (interesting choice of words)? Well, let's see who got the best of that "deal"... If you traded in a clunker worth $3500, you got $4500 off for an apparent "savings" of $1000. You could have gotten $3,500 if you had just traded the car in. So you really are $1,000 ahead (depending on your clunker's value) at this point. Not too bad... However, you WILL have to pay taxes on the $4500 come April 15th (something that no auto dealer will tell you). If you are in the 30% tax bracket, you will pay $1350 on that $4500. So, rather than save $1000, you will actually pay an extra $350. to the feds. In addition, you traded in a car that was most likely paid for. Now you have 4 or 5 years of payments on a car that you did not need, trading in a "clunker" that was costing you less to run than the payments that you will now be making. Even if you save $1,000. dollars a year in gas due to better mileage, you're still gonna be in the red for five years.... hello? But wait, it gets even better: you also got ripped off by the dealer. For example, the month before the "cash for clunkers" program started, every dealer here in LA was selling the Ford Focus with all the goodies including A/C, auto transmission, power windows, etc for $12,500. because competition was stiff due to poor sales from the stalled economy. When "cash for clunkers" came along, they stopped discounting them and instead sold them at the list price of $15,500. So, you paid $3000 more than you would have the month before. Honda, Toyota , and Kia played the same list price game that Ford and Chevy did. Now let's do the math... You traded in a car worth: $3500 You got a discount of: $4500 --------- Net so far + $1000 But you have to pay: $1350 in taxes on the $4500 -------- Net so far: -$350 (that's minus...in the red) And you paid: $ 3000 more than the car was selling for the month before ---------- Net Loss: - $3350 We could also add in the additional taxes (sales tax, state tax, dealer prep, etc.) on the extra $3000 that you paid for the car, along with the Five years of interest on the car loan; but let's just stop here while you kick yourself. Suffice it to say that those costs will be much higher than any savings you get from "better mileage". So who actually made out on the deal? FEDZILLA collected taxes on the car along with taxes on the $4500 they "gave" you. The car dealers made an extra $3000 or more on every car they sold along with the kickbacks from the manufacturers and the loan companies. Manufacturers got to dump lots of cars they could not give away the month before. Lots of good or repairable used cars got taken off the market, crushed and sold as scrap metal to (ready for this?) CHINA! (Look it up...) And the poor consumer got saddled with even more debt that they cannot afford. FEDZILLA'S merry men (who promised that people making less than $250,000. would pay "not one red cent more in taxes") will make millions in new tax revenues after convincing Joe Consumer that he was getting $4500 in "free" money from the "government" In fact, Joe was giving away his $3500 car and paying an additional $3350 for the privilege. Chicago politics gone global...with an agenda. If you find errors in this math, please let me know...being a simple guy, I'm always willing to learn new things; and if you took "advantage" of the Clunkers deal, I have some swamp land down in Florida that's for sale..
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nitsur24u56 Oct 24, 2009 8:19 PM
It is unfortunate that the auto industry is the only one required to give the buyer so much information on actual cost, profit etc. Because most of you knuckle heads are too stupid and weak willed to negotiate and you pay a little more money for your lack of backbone, you cry about car salesmen being this or that. Well, you don't care if their family eats, you lie about everything from your credit to how much you owe on the POS you are trading in. If you get whacked at the dealership, GOOD! You deserve it. Salesmen don't make anything close to what they deserve for havin to deal with you wishy-washy, spineless dinks. The greatest consolation I get is that knowing that even though this dork who writes the articles is getting rich off of you bozos and you will STILL not follow the advice, you will still feel like you have been had when you buy a car and I HOPE you get gutted, but you will probably get decent deal in spite of yourself, and that saddens me. I Hate car shoppers and hope you idiots who tire kick and waffle on making a buying decision, who price shop ten dealers to save fifty stinking dollars and STILL whine about the deal.
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