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Where Is The Best Place To Get Your Car Serviced?

Independent Shops Cheaper In Study, Claim Parity on Quality

Posted: Jul, 06 2009
by: Kevin Ransom | AOL Autos
 

As the economy continues to slump, and as more consumers are foregoing the purchase of new cars and hanging on to their old ones, the cost of auto repairs is becoming a hotter topic than ever.

Even before the current economic crisis, the conventional wisdom (for whatever that's worth) was that repairs were less costly at independent repair shops than at dealerships.

Countering that truism was the claim, from new-car dealerships, that their technicians had more sophisticated training and that the quality of work was higher. The verbal jousting on this topic has been going on for years.

But a recent, first-of-its-kind study by the Automotive Aftermarket Industry Association (AAIA) would seem to back up the truism that costs are indeed lower at those "indie" shops. The AAIA is a trade association representing companies that manufacture and distribute aftermarket parts, accessories, chemicals and supplies, as well as independent repair shops.

According to the AAIA study, repairs cost an average of 34 percent more at new car dealerships compared to the independent dealers, for a total "extra" cost of $11.7 billion a year.

The study was conducted during November and December of 2008 and was based on 840 telephone interviews with both new-car dealerships and independent repair shops in six major cities -- Boston, Newark, Atlanta, St. Louis, Los Angeles and Seattle. Foreign and domestic nameplates were considered separately.

Interviewers asked the dealers and repair shops what parts and labor prices they charged for 10 different types of repairs.

In the six cities where surveys were conducted, the cost of vehicle repairs ranged from 19.7 percent more to 46.8 percent more at new car dealerships, compared to independent repair shops.

Here is how those average cost differences broke down, from city to city (See table, below right):

How Much More Is A Dealer Than An Independent Shop?

Boston+19.7%
Newark+37.8%
Atlanta +46.6%
St. Louis+38.8%
Los Angeles+46.8%
Seattle+19.9%

Source: Automotive Aftermarket Industry Association Study, 2009. The above cities were the six chosen for the study.

The study reported some significant differences in the costs of parts and labor between domestic and import vehicle nameplates.

According the survey, foreign-nameplate repairs performed at dealers averaged 36.8 percent more than at independent repair shops, while repairs performed on domestic nameplates averaged 31.5 percent more at dealerships than at independent repair shops.

The widest gap for a specific repair reported by the study was the average cost of replacing an entire radiator (not just the core) on a foreign nameplate vehicle, including parts and labor. The cost of that job, in the survey, was $325.99 higher at a dealer than at an independent shop.

Meanwhile, the cost of buying and installing front brake pads on a foreign nameplate vehicle was $138.92 more at a dealer than at an independent shop, according to the survey.

At the low end was a $21.95 cost differential for replacing drive belts. Other repairs / replacements surveyed included a rebuilt alternator, new electric fuel pump, transmission flush and filter replacement, upper ball joints, new air compressor and rebuilt starter.

Questioners inquired about repairs to, and part-replacement costs for, such vehicles as 1998 Lexus Coupe, 1998 Dodge Neon, 2004 Toyota Camry, 2004 Mercury Sable GS Sedan, 2002 Volkswagen Jetta GL, 2002 Chrysler Sebring LX sedan, 1997 Honda Accord EX sedan and 1998 Chevy Blazer S-10.

See the below chart for a more detailed list of common repairs and the corresponding costs.

For Average Repairs, Independent Shops Prove Cheaper In Study

Average Cost Difference Per JobNew Car DealershipsIndependent Repair ShopsAverage DifferenceDifference as % of Independent
Air Compressors - New$932.98$812.40$120.5814.8%
Alternators - Rebuilt$372.05$272.08$99.9736.7%
Drive Belts$124.54$102.59$21.9521.4%
Electric Fuel Pumps - New$829.18$681.93$147.2521.6%
Front Brake Pads & Rotors$487.06$346.80$140.2640.4%
Radiators$665.28$354.99$310.2987.4%
Starters - Rebuilt$412.01$291.17$120.8441.5%
Transmission Flush, Filter & Refill$182.14$144.88$37.2625.7%
Upper Ball Joints$660.04$488.59$171.4535.1%
Water Pumps - New$431.89$287.06$144.8350.5%

Source: Automotive Aftermarket Industry Association Study, 2009. The prices for New Car Dealerships and Independent Repair Shops for each job were calculated by weighting prices within each of the major markets and then weighting those calculations by domestic and foreign vehicles.

Rich White, AAIA's Sr. vice president for marketing & communications, opined that one reason dealers generally charge more for repairs is because "they have a lot more overhead than independent repair shops have -- they have more buildings, and more things to pay for."

Meanwhile, Charles Cyrill, the director of public relations for the National Automobile Dealers Association -- the trade group representing new-car dealers -- noted that "the good news is that consumers have choices when it comes to auto repairs. And today's vehicles are becoming increasingly complex," from a technological standpoint.

"New-car dealers offer the best-trained technicians in repairing specific brands of cars and trucks," said Cyrill. "New car dealers invest heavily in training, service equipment and diagnostic tools. Service technicians at new car dealerships routinely undergo high-level training exercises to repair today's complex vehicles and must be certified by the automaker to perform repairs."

White of the AAIA said that technicians at independent shops are also "highly-trained, certified and use sophisticated diagnostic equipment, and also have a great deal of expertise.

"Independent shops also represent 70 percent of all of the non-warranty service and repair work conducted in the U.S," said White. "Dealers are obviously involved [in] many other things, like, specifically, selling and leasing new cars and handling financing -- so they don't have as much time and space to devote to repairs, compared to independent shops," he said.

"Dealers couldn't handle all of the repair work that American consumers need to have done to their vehicles."

Although, that 70 / 30 percent ratio could be changing soon, pondered White. "With new-car sales being down like they are, due to the economy, I think dealers are finding that the service department is going to make them a lot more money than new-car sales."

Generally, that has actually been the case for a long time, given that dealers' profit margins on new-vehicle sales are so slim, but White expects that dealers will be taking on more repair work in the months ahead.

NADA's Cyrill also remarked that "new-car dealerships also receive daily updated service bulletins when vehicle 'fixes' are discovered, and independent repair shops do not have the benefit of service bulletins or OEM training certification.

"Generally, there is a cost discrepancy when a consumer chooses a genuine factory OEM part compared to an aftermarket part," Cyrill continued. "Consumers must determine the 'true cost' of a repair when choosing a new car dealership or an independent repair shop. What may seem cheaper at first may not be at all if a faulty or an inferior part causes a repair failure."

AAIA's White disagreed with that suggestion, saying that the "quality of the parts and the quality of the work done at independent shops is equal to the quality of parts and work performed at dealerships."

But White and Cyrill do agree on one thing -- that, if you're hanging on to your old car because you're hesitant about buying a new one in this economy, the old saw about the importance of regular maintenance is the key.

"That's definitely the 'secret' to your vehicle's longevity," stresses White. "With the economy the way it is, and people worried about losing their jobs, it's more important than ever to make sure you get your car checked regularly, and attend to problems when they arise. Because if you don't, they'll only cost more to fix later."

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ftshf Jul 07, 2009 8:06 PM
HEY DRYWALL GUY, what do you own, a 1979 mustang or camaro, anyone can fix them true, Id like to see you fix a newer car without the tools or the training. . Try to fix a stalling out problem or your locks dont work because theres water corrosion at a splice underneath the carpet becasue your wife or you spilled coffee or water down the center console a year ago when the wire goes from the engine compartment all the way to the back of the car and theres about 40 computers on the car displaying about 20 codes in each computer because there all tied together through the SCP or CAN network leading you in all different directions!!! About the labor times so what if we beat the book at times because weve done that job so many times but more times than not we loose our ass especially at the dealership level because you guys cant read the owners manaul or listen to the salesman because your so excited just to drive your new car!!! We can spend an hour or two on 1 car with no problem founds and not get paid for it because the repair order has 10 lines of items on them that are normal or you dont know how to use it. We dont get paid if theres nothing to fix. The independents do not have to worry about this stuff. Thats what gets me about independents we deal with the customers up until there out of warranty then you guys get the gravy and cant even do that right or you cant fix it and then you send the vehicle to the dealership. You other people that complain about the diag time is redicoulus too, you dont go to the doctor for free to get yourself checked out, but you dont complain when you go to a premium doctor and have to pay. You get what you pay for. If you go to an indie shop its like going to Aldi and if you go to a dealer its like going to a dominicks or a jewel. I dont know about you guys but I have a family and I would want them to feel safe. I sure dont feel safe when I let a pep boys, carx, or midas work on my car. Ive worked at both types of shops and I would certainly feel safer taking my car to a dealer than indie shop. The indies are the con artists, they will sell you a complete tune up on a car for a driveabiltity problem when they have no idea whats going on, but they have no problem selling maintence items on the car that the MANUFACTOR DOSENT EVEN RECOMMEND TILL THOUSANDS OF MILES LATER!!!!!! And saving the best for last, people need to understand we need diag time to fix your car because we have computers but they dont tell you whats wrong with the car they lead you into the direction of the problem and its up to us to find the true problem. ITS NOT AS EASY AS YOU THINK AND THE PEOPLE THAT COMPLAIN THE MOST ARE THE ONES WITH THE MONEY, DRS, LAWYERS, ETC!!! BECAUSE THEY RIP PEOPLE OFF EVERYDAY WITHOUT BLINKING!!!!
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rhengineering00 Jul 07, 2009 12:40 PM
Well I was a paid mechanic for 25 years .. at an independant now laid off. And the unhappy dealership customers provided more work for me.With all the horror stories ive heard in my life. And It applies to alot of different makes. And mr drywall dumb guy..im glad you figured out how to do some mechanical jobs..great..now do it everyday all day on every different make and model from motercycles, boats to full size motor homes .And dont get your gravy remove and replace job. Get some of the real mechanic daily problems . like a wiring short caused by a squirl that got way up inside the dash and chewed up the wiires and nobody could figure it out.And countless1000+ phantom stalling problems that stall once a month in the middle of traffic and not even the dealership could figure it out.And all the wantabe mechanics hacked up work that nobody else could figure out. 25 percent of mechanics are true mechanics 75 percent are practicing hacks.And that 75 percent have become the" norm" these days. So when you talking about them, I would agree with you.And as far as book rates , what happens if it takes LONGER to do the job..than the book calls for???...you still charge the book amount...And I didnt get to see any refunds for my extra attention that I put it to do it right.And as far as dealership parts, I would say they are usually alot better quality than your local Kragen, PepBoys.And when your doing a 11 hour heatercore job you dont want to take the chance that today the cheap part from Kragen is going to fit and work for the life of the vehicle.Its an easy mistake to make to have all these opinions of whats going on at the dealers and the wealth of a Real mechanic is soo beyond belief you wouldnt believe LOL..thats funny.And i made a living on commission, and because i worked harder I made more money. WORKED HARDER..way harder.And because you learn a shortcut doing a job because youve done it 100 times, dosent mean I should pay YOU for busting my ass. If you havent been on the frontline in the trenches of a real auto doing from gravy..to all the shi#$ work at a real repair shop..you dont get it..and never will. BUt everyone will be happy to know,that it has become hourly hiring to most braindead praticing Illegal workers"not mechanics"and they all just use the cheapests parts avilable. So now you all get what youve always dreamed of "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING"...They have you all fooled.....Now days..ITS NOTHING FOR NOTHING. And Mr. Drywall...let me see if i can do your job....oh wait I already have..And its about as tough and technicle as doing a braindead oil change.If you got paid for what YOU know you should make minimum wage.
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mojou2 Jul 07, 2009 9:38 AM
I've been a car owner for 40 years. Dealerships have ALWAYS been a minimum of 40% higher for any and all work I have ever had done. And their work quality, when I have used them, was often far inferior. For some reason, dealerships have lost the mechanics who knew and understood their vehicles. My car problems that dealerships could not diagnose have been successfully diagnosed and repaired by independents - every time! My most recent experience is with my classic 1987 Japanese sports car. The dealer I bought it from told me they'd put my car on the computer ($109), diagnose the problem, and repair it... and said, as dealers, no one else could do better. I took it to an independent who diagnosed it by listening to the symptom in less than 2 minutes, and didn't charge me. He then repaired the car for less than half of the dealer's estimate for the same repair (he did have to use a dealer-only part, but he charged me less than the dealer was going to charge me.) The final kick in the head was when the independent mechanic said to me, "By the way, I don't want to bad mouth the dealer, but, your car doesn't have a computer hookup, anyway!"
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adam1000r Jul 07, 2009 6:17 AM
It really all depends on what type of car you drive and how old it is. Dealerships are not out to get you like a lot of people may think. Dealerships and indie shops are both motivated by the same thing- MAKEING MONEY. So why are they any more likely than the indie shops to screw you? Both parties are just doing buisness, providing a service for a fee. Here is the difference: Indie shops often use cheap low quality aftermarket parts which is where you get a lot of your "savings" that may actually cost you more down the road in repairs. That stuff is fine for your 1989 Chevy, but if your driving a high end import less than 10 years old than you better go to the dealer. Those cars need factory parts and service to coninue proper operation. Those guys at the indie shops often guess at a problem and throw parts at you car because they don;t have any clue whats going on so it relly costs you more. Take it to the dealer where the factory technicians work on your type of car everyday and have more than likely seen that problem already. You will be charged a higher rate, however your car will BE FIXED RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR JUST AS WITH ANYTHING ELSE IN LIFE. Think of it this way, do you go to the cheapest doctor you can find or do you spend whatever it takes to get proper care?
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jaguignon Jul 07, 2009 5:16 AM
$300 to 600 for an alternator? I can remember when I was a kid, I put an alternator in my 70' F-250 and it cost me $35 for a rebuilt at the auto parts store. Man I'm getting old!
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