Buy American or Get Out?

A Detroit mayor tells his employees what car to drive

By KEVIN RANSOM | AOL AUTOS

What Do You Think?

DETROIT -- A directive recently handed down by a Detroit-area suburban mayor has ignited the latest round of a seemingly endless debate -- one that always burns with more intensity in the home of the Big Three than anywhere else.

It's the debate that relates to cars and it goes something like this: "Buy American!" vs. "I'll buy what I want!"

That debate sometimes, but not always, begins as a civil conversation. But the Detroit area has been hit hard in the last five years by the ongoing, sometimes enormous financial losses posted by the Big Three. The Big Three's financial woes have had a direct impact on the Michigan economy with hundreds of thousands of layoffs and/or buyouts.

Given that so many of the state's workers have lost their jobs -- and in some cases, their homes - it sometimes doesn't take long before the car debate escalates into an emotional one. That can lead to angry name-calling and insults - like many of the reader comments that flooded the online edition of the Detroit newspaper that first reported a controversial story.

This latest round of the discussion was inspired by a decision made by Jim Fouts, the mayor of Warren, Mich., a large Detroit suburb and Michigan's third-largest city, and where a good portion of the residents are (or were) autoworkers.

In mid-August, Fouts told his department heads, which amount to 40 or 50 of the city's more than 700 employees, that he "expects" the next car they buy will be an American model. More to the point, he expects them to drive General Motors or Chrysler vehicles, since both companies have various manufacturing or assembly plants in Warren -- not to mention GM's sprawling Tech Center -- and therefore are the city's two highest taxpayers.

Fouts, who drives a 2001 Chrysler Concorde himself, isn't being draconian about it. That is, he hasn't ordered his appointees to run right out and dump their Hondas, Toyotas, Saabs or Audis immediately. "But I strongly suggested that the next car they buy should be an American one, and that I had an equally strong expectation that they will do so," Fouts said. "Legally, since they are 'at-will' employees, I have the right to mandate, and an expectation that they will meet that mandate."

Some have accused Fouts of over-stepping his authority by "butting in" to his employees' private lives, while others have given the policy a hearty "thumbs up."

"Some of them are not enthusiastic about it," Fouts said, noting that one department head currently drives a Mercedes-Benz vehicle. "But many of these department heads make more than $100,000 a year, and I told them that they might not be able to enjoy the economic comforts they currently enjoy if it were not for the amount of taxes that GM and Chrysler pay to the city.

"I think of it as 'economic patriotism.'"

Fouts said he did not know how many of his department heads currently drive imports, although one of his appointees, Warren Police Commissioner Bill Dwyer, guessed that about 90 percent of the appointees already drive American-made cars.

"But the ones who are not happy about this -- well, they won't talk to [reporters] about that, because they know how I feel about it," said Fouts.

Dwyer, who drives a Jeep Cherokee, supports the mayor's "buy American" expectation. "I believe that, the way the economy is, that Americans should be buying American cars. And, as department heads, I think it's important for us to be setting an example for the other city workers."

One of the reasons usually cited for the U.S. automakers' loss of market share are consumer perceptions that imports are higher in quality -- although several recent surveys by various research groups have revealed that Detroit carmakers have closed the "quality gap" in recent years to the point that it is almost negligible.

And the handful of Detroit-area residents/natives we talked to about the "Buy American" debate had no complaints about the quality of their American-made cars - or their foreign-made ones, for that matter. One is Tracy Balazy of Dearborn - the Detroit suburb that is home to the Ford Motor Company's world headquarters. "I drive a 2000 Saturn, because it was cheaper than a Honda," Balazy said. "And other than brakes and the usual things, I've had no problems with it, and it now has 101,000 miles on it."

Balazy has an interesting take on the topic of whether we should feel compelled to "buy American," when it comes to cars, however - and whether we should be instructed to do so.

"The average American probably spends a lot more on other things - clothes, household goods, you name it - than on cars. I think it's hypocritical for someone to tell everyone to 'buy American' as it pertains to cars, but then take advantage of the great prices on imported goods at say, Wal-Mart," Balazy said. "I've passed up many good deals, and have abstained from buying a lot of consumer goods I've wanted over the past year, just to avoid buying foreign-made products."

Ken Reibel, a Michigan native who's lived in Milwaukee for more than 20 years, drives a 2002 Mazda Protégé, while his wife motors around in a 2001 Toyota Corolla. "We bought both of them used, from neighbors," he says. "They've both been good runners. No serious problems. The Protégé is a sweet ride.

"But I'm not even sure what it means to 'Buy American' anymore," says Reibel. "Ford has a huge stake in Mazda, and Japanese automakers build most of their cars for the American market right here in the U.S., with American labor. It's easier to 'Buy American' if you're purchasing a shirt or case of beer. But cars are different. I'm sure if you disassembled a Chevrolet Malibu or a Ford Windstar you would find an appalling number of foreign-made components and assemblies."

Gary Galusky is a Detroit-area native/resident who gives high marks to quality of his American-made vehicle. For the last couple of years, Galusky has actually maintained two residences: one in Dearborn and one in Sutton's Bay, in Northern Michigan - a five-hour drive. "I make that commute regularly, about every three weeks, in a 2005 Ford Escape that I bought new. It now has 103,000 miles on it, and it's never required anything other than ordinary maintenance," says Galusky.

Conrad Sutter grew up in Harper Woods, a Detroit suburb just a few miles from Warren, and now lives in Richland, in western Michigan. Sutter says he agrees with the "Buy American" sentiment. "I believe what the mayor of Warren is doing is okay," says Sutter. "I wouldn't suppose there are a lot of Apple Computers being purchased in Redmond, Washington (home of Microsoft Corp.), either.

"Nothing wrong with that."

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Hawley519 04:53:56 AM Nov 07 2008

I beleive it is our duty to buy american. I went to sears to buy a stove and pulled it out to read the tag where it was made. It was made in mexico and I asked the saleman to find me a american made one and he said does it matter. I started to speak loudly so the whole store could hear me. I demand American made. God Bless America.

UofMRules1 12:01:24 AM Nov 07 2008

Maybe we'll buy American when they can build them better, or when the price comes down on them, or (in the case of GM and, very very soon, Chrysler) they didn't have OnStar by BIG BROTHER on them that you can't remove or order without! Sorry about the ladt thing, but GM all but lost my business with that, and soon Chrysler will lose me if GM takes them over!

Msfitz1948 11:53:06 PM Nov 06 2008

hey jakkkkk that's one of the more foolish statements I've read in a while. I voted for liberals for many many years and haven't owned a forgien car since my vw bug ..back in the day.... so oh never mind. why argue with a fool?

Bikeneagle 09:30:44 PM Nov 06 2008

why should you buy american when the parts are made in china and it cost more to put it together in america . parts to build car $ 7,000, price to assemble in america $23,000, market price for car $31,000. car made outside america and shiped here $22,000. ok now do the math, even barney can do this simple math. you can keep your american greed. good cars are made by the people for the people.when the pigs are gone we all live better.

Jakkkflash 04:23:06 PM Nov 06 2008

any one who would vote for a MARXIST, SOCIALIST for president surely would h ave no second thoughts about buying jap or korean cars...but like old reverend wright said the chickens are comin home to roost,, thus we have unemployment, foreclosures, diving stock market . Like old Charles Wilson once said.. whats good for GENERAL MOTORS is good for AMERICA.....

Jakkkflash 04:19:11 PM Nov 06 2008

well all i have to say is my old BUICK with a bulletproof 3800 V-6 has over 250,000 miles.... the only wrenches that have ever been used on it are an oil filter wrench and lug wrench.

TreatCE 12:59:10 PM Oct 16 2008

When my family buys a car... we look at the total product, total cost to keep in exceptional condition and its intended use. We generally buy a new car each year and the products that are still around after 10 years, look nearly as new as possible - Still standing in Good Shape are: Toyota, Nissan, and Mercury (12 years, 12 years and 12 years, respectively).Value is NOT price alone. That said, we keep tight records of all costs and find the Mercury costs more to keep in good condition, while the Toyota and Nissans are racking up nearly ZERO dollars in interior repairs and only require regular cleaning. The Mercury products (3) have not been as easy to keep. Mechanical, fuel efficiency, engine accessory replacements and minor exterior trim issues lead me to believe the product line from Mercury is good...but still costs more in the long run.As to why Americans still have perceptions as to American auto quality: It took a long time to get the reputation, and it takes a long time to corre

Jms2161 01:34:27 AM Oct 16 2008

I say that the folks in the once great city of Detroit can go to hell. Maybe they can find another Kwame Kilpatrick to elect as their mayor. I'll buy German or Japenese, thank you...jms

Hotroddy1942 11:53:59 PM Oct 15 2008

Maybe the American car companys should first start thinking about buying american parts for those american cars.I personally will never buy a foreign car , but have no control over what parts that in that car.And maybe the unions should help in this department instead of only how to stuff their pockets with workers hard earned money.And think about if some of the workers are worth the wages the receive.

MoparMatt73 09:31:24 PM Oct 15 2008

you don't have to buy a new car.as long as its an american made car nothing else matters.you can get all american made parts for a good used car.all car makers quit making a rwd full framed car that was reliable about 15 years ago.these new fwd cars are throw aways.they are not even real cars.

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